Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2019 vs. KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2019

Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2019

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

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Pregled - Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2019 vs KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

The Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2019 and the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017 are both enduro motorcycles that offer unique features and performance.

Starting with the engine and drive train, the Moto Guzzi V85 TT is equipped with a V2 engine with a displacement of 853ccm, producing 80 HP of power and 80 Nm of torque. It has a smooth and forgiving power delivery, making it suitable for various riding conditions. The engine is paired with a prop shaft transmission, which provides low maintenance and durability. On the other hand, the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S features a larger V2 engine with a displacement of 1301ccm, delivering a powerful 160 HP of power and 140 Nm of torque. This engine offers exhilarating acceleration and performance. It is paired with a chain transmission, which requires more maintenance compared to the prop shaft transmission of the Moto Guzzi.

In terms of suspension, both motorcycles feature upside-down telescopic forks on the front and swing arm suspension with a monoshock on the rear. However, the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S has larger diameter forks (48mm) compared to the Moto Guzzi V85 TT (41mm), providing better stability and handling. The KTM also offers more suspension travel (200mm) compared to the Moto Guzzi (170mm), making it more capable off-road.

In terms of chassis, the Moto Guzzi V85 TT has a steel frame, while the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S features a chromium-molybdenum frame. The KTM's frame is lighter and more rigid, contributing to better handling and maneuverability.

Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2019

Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2019

Both motorcycles are equipped with Brembo brakes on the front, providing excellent stopping power. The KTM also offers additional features such as cornering ABS, which enhances safety during cornering.

When it comes to rider assistance systems, both motorcycles offer ABS, riding modes, ride by wire, and traction control. However, the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S also features electronically adjustable suspension, allowing the rider to fine-tune the suspension settings based on their preferences and riding conditions.

In terms of dimensions and weights, the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S has a slightly higher seat height (860mm) compared to the Moto Guzzi V85 TT (830mm). The KTM also has a larger fuel tank capacity (23l) compared to the Moto Guzzi (21l). However, the KTM is slightly heavier, with a dry weight of 215kg compared to the Moto Guzzi's 208kg.

In terms of equipment, both motorcycles feature LED headlights. However, the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S offers additional features such as heated grips, cornering lights, and an adjustable windscreen. The KTM also has a large TFT display, providing clear and easy-to-read information.

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

In terms of strengths, the Moto Guzzi V85 TT offers a comfortable and forgiving V2 engine with a great sound. It also has good decelerating brakes and a very iconic and beautiful exterior design. The Moto Guzzi is suitable for light off-road terrain and features an easy-care cardan drive.

On the other hand, the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S has a powerful engine and precise handling. It offers traction control with a fun factor and comes with cornering ABS as standard. The KTM also features a quickshifter, LED headlights with cornering lights, and is off-road capable.

In terms of weaknesses, some editors find the Moto Guzzi V85 TT lacking in sportiness and performance. It is also unsuitable for harder off-road tracks and taller pilots may find it difficult to ride in a standing position. The KTM 1290 Super Adventure S has a higher price tag and the height adjustment of the windshield can consume power.

Overall, both the Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2019 and the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017 offer unique features and performance. The choice between the two would depend on the rider's preferences and priorities, such as power, off-road capability, and additional features.

Tehnične specifikacije Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2019 v primerjavi z KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2019
KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

Motor in pogonski sklop

Vrsta motorjaVrsta motorjaVVrsta motorjaV
IzvrtinaIzvrtina84 mmIzvrtina108 mm
GibGib77 mmGib71 mm
Moč motorjaMoč motorja80 KMMoč motorja160 KM
Število vrtljajev na minuto pri največji močiŠtevilo vrtljajev na minuto pri največji moči7,750 min-1Število vrtljajev na minuto pri največji moči8,750 min-1
NavorNavor80 NmNavor140 Nm
Število vrtljajev na minuto pri navoruŠtevilo vrtljajev na minuto pri navoru5,000 min-1Število vrtljajev na minuto pri navoru6,750 min-1
Kompresijsko razmerjeKompresijsko razmerje10.5 Kompresijsko razmerje13.1
Sistem za gorivoSistem za gorivoVbrizgavanjeSistem za gorivoVbrizgavanje
Izvrtina dušilne loputeIzvrtina dušilne lopute52 mmIzvrtina dušilne lopute52 mm
StopinjeStopinje90 Stopinje75
ZaganjalnikZaganjalnikElektričniZaganjalnikElektrični
Tip sklopkeTip sklopkeEnodelna sklopkaTip sklopkeVečdelna sklopka v oljni kopeli
VžigVžigDigitalniVžigDvojni vžig
Prenos močiPrenos močikardanska gredPrenos močiVeriga
Vrsta menjalnikaVrsta menjalnikaPrestavna ročicaVrsta menjalnikaPrestavna ročica
Število prestavŠtevilo prestav6Število prestav6
CilindriCilindri2Cilindri2
GibiGibiŠtiritaktniGibiŠtiritaktni
Ventili na valjVentili na valj2Ventili na valj4
VentiliVentiliVentil v glavi motorjaVentiliDvojna odmična gred v glavi motorja
HlajenjeHlajenjeOlje-zrakHlajenjetekočina
Gibna prostorninaGibna prostornina853 cm3Gibna prostornina1,301 cm3

Sprednje vzmetenje

Sprednje vzmetenjeSprednje vzmetenjeObrnjene teleskopske viliceSprednje vzmetenjeObrnjene teleskopske vilice
PremerPremer41 mmPremer48 mm
HodHod170 mmHod200 mm
NastavitevNastavitevPredobremenitev, Povratni vzgonNastavitevKompresija, Predobremenitev, Povratni vzgon

Zadnje vzmetenje

VzmetenjeVzmetenjeVrtljivi drogVzmetenjeVrtljivi drog
AmortizerAmortizerEn blažilnikAmortizerEn blažilnik
Pritrditev amortizerjaPritrditev amortizerjaneposredniPritrditev amortizerjaMehanizem vzmetenja
HodHod170 mmHod200 mm
NastavitevNastavitevPredobremenitevNastavitevKompresija, Predobremenitev, Povratni vzgon
MaterialMaterialJekloMaterialAluminij

Podvozje

OkvirOkvirJekloOkvirKrom-molibden

Sprednje zavore

VrstaVrstaDvojni kolutVrstaDvojni kolut
PremerPremer320 mmPremer320 mm
BatBatŠtirje batiBatŠtirje bati
SproženjeSproženjeHidravličnoSproženjeHidravlično
TehnologijaTehnologijaRadialnaTehnologijaRadialna
ZnamkaZnamkaBremboZnamkaBrembo

Zadnje zavore

VrstaVrstaKolutVrstaKolut
PremerPremer260 mmPremer267 mm
BatBatDva bataBatDva bata
ZnamkaZnamkaBremboZnamkaBrembo

Sistemi za pomoč vozniku

Napredni sistemi za pomoč voznikomNapredni sistemi za pomoč voznikomABS, Vozni načini, Vodenje po žici, Nadzor zdrsavanja kolesNapredni sistemi za pomoč voznikomABS, Elektronsko nastavljivo vzmetenje, Vozni načini, Vodenje po žici, Nadzor zdrsavanja koles

Mere in mase

Širina sprednje pnevmatikeŠirina sprednje pnevmatike110 mmŠirina sprednje pnevmatike120 mm
Višina sprednje pnevmatikeVišina sprednje pnevmatike80 %Višina sprednje pnevmatike70 %
Premer sprednje pnevmatikePremer sprednje pnevmatike19 palcevPremer sprednje pnevmatike19 palcev
Širina zadnje pnevmatikeŠirina zadnje pnevmatike150 mmŠirina zadnje pnevmatike170 mm
Višina zadnje pnevmatikeVišina zadnje pnevmatike70 %Višina zadnje pnevmatike60 %
Premer zadnje pnevmatikePremer zadnje pnevmatike17 palcevPremer zadnje pnevmatike17 palcev
Višina sedežaVišina sedeža830 mmVišina sedeža860 mm
Suha masa (z ABS)Suha masa (z ABS)208 kgSuha masa (z ABS)215 kg
Lastna masa (z ABS)Lastna masa (z ABS)229 kgLastna masa (z ABS)238 kg
Prostornina posode za gorivoProstornina posode za gorivo21 lProstornina posode za gorivo23 l
Skladnost z dovoljenjemSkladnost z dovoljenjemASkladnost z dovoljenjemA

Oprema

OpremaOpremaLED-žarometiOpremaOgrevani ročaji, Luči za osvetljevanje ovinkov, LED-žarometi, Nastavljiv vetrobran

Primerjava prednosti in slabosti

Primerjava prednosti in slabosti

Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2019

Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2019

Križanec med potovalnimi enduri izžareva udobje in suverenost. Njegov gromozanski motor V2 se dobro in prizanesljivo premika. Dobro delujeta tudi podvozje in zavore. Za ekstremne terenske razmere je prav tako neprimeren kot v rokah zloglasnih brusačev kolen. Moto Guzzi V 85 TT rad opravlja svoje poti na prefinjen in udoben način, tudi za daljše ture pa s svojim kardanskim pogonom in ergonomijo ponuja dovolj praktičnega udobja. Poleg tega je videti senzacionalno in sporoča čustva. Edina stvar, ki bi si jo nekateri od naših testerjev želeli, je nekaj več konjev od njegovih 80 KM.

Prijeten, prizanesljiv motor V2

odličen zvok

dobre zavore pri pojemku

zelo ikonična, lepa zunanjost

primeren za lahke terenske terene

enostaven kardanski pogon

nekateri naši uredniki bi si želeli več športnosti in zmogljivosti

neprimeren za težje terenske proge

vožnja v stoječem položaju je težavna za višje pilote

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S je več kot le športni enduro - je športni stroj, ki se lahko odpravi tudi na pot. Močan motor s 160 KM ni le izjemno zmogljiv, temveč je tudi zelo enostaven za upravljanje in v vas vzbudi željo po športni vožnji. Tudi številni elektronski asistenčni sistemi, kot so nadzor vleke, polaktivno podvozje, različni načini in zavorni ABS, prispevajo k temu, da se boste na 1290 Super Adventure S počutili povsem domače. Nazadnje so prepričljivi tudi ogromen zaslon TFT in drugi pripomočki, kot sta sistem Race-on ali My Ride.

Zmogljiv motor

natančno upravljanje

nadzor vleke z dejavnikom zabave

serijski sistem ABS v ovinkih

pregleden, velik zaslon TFT

hitra prestavna ročica

žarometi LED z lučmi za osvetljevanje ovinkov

možnost vožnje po terenu.

Visoka cena

nastavitev višine vetrobranskega stekla, ki zahteva veliko energije

Primerjava povprečnih tržnih cen Moto Guzzi V85 TT vs KTM 1290 Super Adventure S

There are a few key differences between a Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2019 and a KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017. In terms of price, the actual average price of a KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017 is about 32% higher. Compared to KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017 there are less Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2019 bikes available on the 1000PS.de Marketplace, specifically 18 compared to 26. It takes less time to sell a KTM 1290 Super Adventure S with 68 days compared to 87 days for the Moto Guzzi V85 TT. Since model year 2018 1000PS.de editors have written 15 reviews for the Moto Guzzi V85 TT and 31 reviews for the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S since model year 2017. The first review for the Moto Guzzi V85 TT was published on 11/27/2017 and now has more than 73,200 views. This compares to more than 32,200 views for the first review on KTM 1290 Super Adventure S published on 10/12/2016.

Cena Moto Guzzi V85 TT

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Cena KTM 1290 Super Adventure S

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