Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade 2012 vs. BMW S 1000 RR 2017

Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade 2012

Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade 2012

BMW S 1000 RR 2017

BMW S 1000 RR 2017

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Overview - Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade 2012 vs BMW S 1000 RR 2017

The Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade model year 2012 and the BMW S 1000 RR model year 2017 are both supersport motorcycles with similar technical specifications. However, there are some notable differences between the two.

In terms of engine and drive train, both motorcycles have an inline four-cylinder engine with four valves per cylinder. The Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade has a displacement of 999.8cc, while the BMW S 1000 RR has a slightly smaller displacement of 999cc. The BMW S 1000 RR has a higher engine power of 199 HP compared to the Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade's 178 HP. The torque is also higher in the BMW S 1000 RR at 113 Nm, while the Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade has a torque of 112 Nm. The compression ratio is higher in the BMW S 1000 RR at 13, compared to the Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade's 12.3.

Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade 2012

Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade 2012

Both motorcycles have upside-down telescopic fork front suspension and an aluminum twin tube frame chassis. They also have double disk front brakes with radial technology. The front and rear tire dimensions are the same for both motorcycles, with a width of 120mm and a diameter of 17 inches. The wheelbase is slightly longer in the BMW S 1000 RR at 1438mm, compared to the Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade's 1407mm. The seat height is lower in the BMW S 1000 RR at 815mm, while the Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade has a seat height of 820mm. The kerb weight with ABS is slightly lower in the BMW S 1000 RR at 208kg, compared to the Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade's 211kg. Both motorcycles have a fuel tank capacity of around 17 liters.

In terms of strengths, the Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade 2012 has a simple chassis, a pleasant engine, and a relatively comfortable ride. It also has ABS and a seating position that is unattractive for taller riders. On the other hand, the BMW S 1000 RR 2017 has the option for complete electronic equipment and all features are available in high quality. It has a strong engine that is powerful and easy to control, as well as a comfortable seating position even for taller riders. It also has a good chassis for both road riding and track days.

BMW S 1000 RR 2017

BMW S 1000 RR 2017

In terms of weaknesses, the Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade 2012 has had some unusual set-up problems related to balance and handlebar precision. On the other hand, the BMW S 1000 RR 2017 has been reported to experience brake fade on the racetrack under high load. The ride quality is also not considered good enough for racing, although it is sufficient for track days. Additionally, some riders feel that the BMW S 1000 RR looks a bit greyed out, despite being technically up to date.

Overall, both the Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade 2012 and the BMW S 1000 RR 2017 are high-performance supersport motorcycles with their own strengths and weaknesses. The choice between the two would depend on the rider's preferences and priorities, whether it be comfort, performance, or specific features.

Technical Specifications Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade 2012 compared to BMW S 1000 RR 2017

Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade 2012
BMW S 1000 RR 2017

Engine and Drive Train

Engine typeEngine typeIn lineEngine typeIn line
BoreBore76 mmBore80 mm
StrokeStroke55.1 mmStroke49.7 mm
Engine powerEngine power178 HPEngine power199 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power12,000 rpmRpm at Max. Power13,500 rpm
TorqueTorque112 NmTorque113 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque8,500 rpmRpm at Torque10,500 rpm
Compression RatioCompression Ratio12.3 Compression Ratio13
StarterStarterElectricStarterElectric
Clutch TypeClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bathClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bath, Antihopping
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
CylindersCylinders4Cylinders4
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
Valves per cylinderValves per cylinder4Valves per cylinder4
CoolingCoolingliquidCoolingliquid
DisplacementDisplacement999.8 ccmDisplacement999 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork

Chassis

FrameFrameAluminiumFrameAluminium
Frame typeFrame typeTwin TubeFrame typeTwin Tube

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
TechnologyTechnologyradial, MonoblockTechnologyradial

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
PistonPistonSingle pistonPistonSingle piston

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width120 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height70 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter17 inchFront tyre diameter17 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width190 mmRear tyre width190 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height50 %Rear tyre height55 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
LengthLength2,077 mmLength2,050 mm
WidthWidth685 mmWidth826 mm
WheelbaseWheelbase1,407 mmWheelbase1,438 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height820 mmSeat Height815 mm
Kerb Weight (with ABS)Kerb Weight (with ABS)211 kgKerb Weight (with ABS)208 kg
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity17.7 lFuel Tank Capacity17.5 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade 2012

Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade 2012

At the current price level of the 1000cc, you can't call any motorbike a bargain, but the Honda is still at the lower end of the price scale. This should not be forgotten when making comparisons with the Panigale or the Aprilia RSV4 Factory.

Simple chassis

pleasant engine

relatively comfortable ride

ABS

seating position unattractive for taller riders.

Unusual set-up problems - balance and handlebar precision.

BMW S 1000 RR 2017

BMW S 1000 RR 2017

The well-balanced universal talent will also be at the forefront of many comparison tests in 2017. It still scores with the outstanding engine and the universal and complete equipment.

On request with complete electronic equipment. All features available in high quality

Strong engine - powerful and easy to control

Comfortable seating position even for taller riders

Good chassis on the road and at trackdays

Brake fade on the racetrack under high load

Ride quality high enough for trackdays but not good enough for racing

Looks greyed out even though it is technically up to date

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade vs BMW S 1000 RR

There are a few key differences between a Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade 2012 and a BMW S 1000 RR 2017. In terms of price, the actual average price of a BMW S 1000 RR 2017 is about 57% higher. Compared to BMW S 1000 RR 2017 there are less Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade 2012 bikes available on the 1000PS.de Marketplace, specifically 5 compared to 9. It takes less time to sell a Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade with 76 days compared to 96 days for a BMW S 1000 RR. Since model year 2005 1000PS.de editors have written 71 reviews for the Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade and 135 reviews for the BMW S 1000 RR since model year 2010. The first review for the Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade was published on 11/25/2003 and now has more than 3,700 views. This compares to more than 4,000 views for the first review on BMW S 1000 RR published on 4/16/2008.

Price Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade

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