BMW F 850 GS 2023 vs. Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2024

BMW F 850 GS 2023

Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2024

Technical Specifications BMW F 850 GS 2023 compared to Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2024

BMW F 850 GS 2023

Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2024

BMW F 850 GS 2023

Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2024

Engine and Drive Train

Engine type	Engine type	In line	Engine type	V
Bore	Bore	84 mm	Bore	84 mm
Stroke	Stroke	77 mm	Stroke	77 mm
Engine power	Engine power	95 HP	Engine power	80 HP
Rpm at Max. Power	Rpm at Max. Power	8,250 rpm	Rpm at Max. Power	7,750 rpm
Torque	Torque	92 Nm	Torque	83 Nm
Rpm at Torque	Rpm at Torque	6,250 rpm	Rpm at Torque	5,100 rpm
Compression Ratio	Compression Ratio	12.7	Compression Ratio	10.5
Fuel system	Fuel system	Injection	Fuel system	Injection
Throttle Bore	Throttle Bore	48 mm	Throttle Bore	52 mm
Starter	Starter	Electric	Starter	Electric
Clutch Type	Clutch Type	Multiplate in oil-bath	Clutch Type	Toughened
Transmission	Transmission	Chain	Transmission	Prop shaft
Transmission Type	Transmission Type	Gearshift	Transmission Type	Gearshift
Number of gears	Number of gears	6	Number of gears	6
Cylinders	Cylinders	2	Cylinders	2
Strokes	Strokes	4-Stroke	Strokes	4-Stroke
Valves per cylinder	Valves per cylinder	4	Valves per cylinder	2
Valves	Valves	DOHC	Valves	OHV
Cooling	Cooling	liquid	Cooling	Air
Lubrication	Lubrication	Dry sump	Lubrication	Fresh oil
Displacement	Displacement	853 ccm	Displacement	853 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspension	Front suspension	Upside-Down telescopic fork	Front suspension	Upside-Down telescopic fork
Diameter	Diameter	43 mm	Diameter	41 mm
Travel	Travel	204 mm	Travel	170 mm

Suspension Rear

Suspension	Suspension	Swing arm	Suspension	Swing arm
Shock absorber	Shock absorber	Monoshock	Shock absorber	Monoshock
Shock mount	Shock mount	direct	Shock mount	direct
Travel	Travel	219 mm	Travel	170 mm
Adjustment	Adjustment	Preload, Rebound	Adjustment	Preload, Rebound
Material	Material	Aluminium	Material	Aluminium

Chassis

Frame	Frame	Steel	Frame	Steel

Brakes Front

Type	Type	Double disk	Type	Double disk
Diameter	Diameter	305 mm	Diameter	320 mm
Piston	Piston	Double piston	Piston	Four pistons
Actuation	Actuation	Hydraulic	Actuation	Hydraulic

Brakes Rear

Type	Type	Disc	Type	Disc
Diameter	Diameter	265 mm	Diameter	260 mm
Piston	Piston	Single piston	Piston	Double piston

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance Systems	Advanced Rider Assistance Systems	ABS	Advanced Rider Assistance Systems	ABS, Riding modes, Cornering ABS, Ride by Wire, Traction control

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre width	Front tyre width	90 mm	Front tyre width	110 mm
Front tyre height	Front tyre height	90 %	Front tyre height	80 %
Front tyre diameter	Front tyre diameter	21 inch	Front tyre diameter	19 inch
Rear tyre width	Rear tyre width	150 mm	Rear tyre width	150 mm
Rear tyre height	Rear tyre height	70 %	Rear tyre height	70 %
Rear tyre diameter	Rear tyre diameter	17 inch	Rear tyre diameter	17 inch
Length	Length	2,305 mm	Length	2,240 mm
Width	Width	922 mm	Width	950 mm
Wheelbase	Wheelbase	1,593 mm	Wheelbase	1,530 mm
Seat Height	Seat Height	805 mm	Seat Height	830 mm
Kerb Weight (with ABS)	Kerb Weight (with ABS)	229 kg	Kerb Weight (with ABS)	230 kg
Fuel Tank Capacity	Fuel Tank Capacity	15 l	Fuel Tank Capacity	23 l
Top Speed	Top Speed	200 km/h	Top Speed	195 km/h
License compliancy	License compliancy	A	License compliancy	A
Range	Range	4.2 km	Range	469 km
Combined CO2 emissions	Combined CO2 emissions	99 g/km	Combined CO2 emissions	119 g/km

Equipment

Equipment	Equipment	LED-Headlights, TFT display, Windscreen adjustable	Equipment	LED-Headlights

Pros and Cons in comparison

BMW F 850 GS 2023

The BMW F 850 GS also scores points in 2022 with its pleasant ergonomics and accessible character. Operation is easy and you quickly feel comfortable on the motorbike. The longer the tour, the more you miss the finesse in the details. The damping of the fork is too lax and not adjustable. The engine gets a bit boring in the long run, and the gearstick and quickshifter are always stiff. In direct comparison with other touring enduros, it is always somewhat overshadowed by more exciting models.

Good wind and weather protection

well thought-out operating concept

practical equipment

very accessible operation and driveability in everyday use

good seat comfort

great connectivity solution

Vibrations in the upper rev range

boring engine

stiff quickshifter gearstick

front damping too lax

fork not adjustable

ponderous feel

front brake could do with more bite.

Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2024

Do owners of an older V85 TT now have to switch? Of course not, but the extensive changes for the 2024 model year were sensible, the engine looks a little more "grown-up" and the lean angle-dependent Advanced Rider Assistance Systems are beneficial to riding safety. All in all, the classically beautiful Moto Guzzi V85 TT - or Strada and TT Travel - is still a wonderful touring motorbike that feels most at home on the road and is made for relaxed cruising, although it can also take corners with real agility and of course also masters easier off-road passages. All this, combined with its iconic appearance and the unique selling point in its vehicle class of a low-maintenance cardan transmission, make it a real alternative in the mid-range enduro and adventure touring segment.

Pleasant, present V2 engine

good sound

contemporary Advanced Rider Assistance Systems

well-tuned riding modes

easy-care cardan drive

ready for easier off-road passages

cruise control as standard

unmistakable, timelessly beautiful look

harmonious, linear steering behaviour

high grip and traction

robust and reliable design

comfortable seating position

intuitive TFT display

suitable for long distances

riding experience full of character.

Relatively high weight in relation to power

no quickshifter available

not made for tougher off-road

sluggish handling at low speeds

clutch requires a lot of manual force

noticeable load change reactions

limited knee room for taller riders

searching for neutral in the transmission is sometimes a bit annoying

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Price BMW F 850 GS

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