Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2021 vs. Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020

Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2021

Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2021

Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020

Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020

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Overview - Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2021 vs Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020

In terms of engine and drive train, both the Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2021 and the Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020 have V-type engines. However, the Pan America has a larger bore of 105 mm compared to the V85 TT's 84 mm. The Pan America also has a higher engine power of 150 HP compared to the V85 TT's 80 HP. The Pan America has a higher torque of 127 Nm compared to the V85 TT's 80 Nm. Both motorcycles have electric starters, but the Pan America has a chain transmission while the V85 TT has a prop shaft transmission. The Pan America has 2 cylinders and a displacement of 1252 ccm, while the V85 TT also has 2 cylinders but a smaller displacement of 853 ccm.

In terms of suspension, both motorcycles have upside-down telescopic forks in the front and swing arm suspension in the rear. The Pan America has a larger front fork diameter of 47 mm compared to the V85 TT's 41 mm. Both motorcycles have the same front suspension travel of 170 mm, but the Pan America has a slightly higher rear suspension travel of 191 mm compared to the V85 TT's 170 mm. Both motorcycles have adjustable front suspension, with the Pan America offering compression, preload, and rebound adjustments, while the V85 TT only offers preload and rebound adjustments. The Pan America also has adjustable rear suspension with compression, preload, and rebound adjustments, while the V85 TT only offers preload adjustment.

In terms of chassis, the Pan America has an aluminum frame, while the V85 TT has a steel frame. Both motorcycles have double disk brakes in the front, with Brembo brand brakes.

Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2021

Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2021

In terms of assistance systems, both motorcycles have ABS, riding modes, and traction control. The Pan America also has additional advanced rider assistance systems such as electronically adjustable suspension, cornering ABS, ride by wire, cruise control, and Bluetooth connectivity. The Pan America also features cornering lights, LED daytime running lights, LED headlights, a TFT display, and an adjustable windscreen. The V85 TT, on the other hand, only has heated grips and LED headlights.

In terms of dimensions and weights, both motorcycles have a front tire diameter of 19 inches and a rear tire diameter of 17 inches. The Pan America has a wider rear tire width of 170 mm compared to the V85 TT's 150 mm. The Pan America has a longer wheelbase of 1585 mm compared to the V85 TT's 1530 mm. The Pan America also has a higher seat height of 850 mm compared to the V85 TT's 830 mm. In terms of weight, the Pan America has a higher dry weight of 242 kg and a higher kerb weight of 258 kg compared to the V85 TT's 208 kg dry weight and 229 kg kerb weight. Both motorcycles have a fuel tank capacity of around 21 liters.

Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020

Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020

In terms of equipment, the Pan America has additional features such as connectivity, cornering lights, LED daytime running lights, and a windscreen that is adjustable. The V85 TT, on the other hand, only has heated grips and LED headlights.

In terms of strengths, the Pan America has a sporty powerplant, comfortable seating position, good pillion suitability, extensive electronics, an original HD pannier system, wind protection, cornering ABS and TC as standard, optional seat lowering when stationary, and good off-road characteristics. The V85 TT has a confident engine with good sound, a maintenance-free Kardan drive, excellent brakes, a good electronics package, well-balanced handling, off-road talent, pleasant ergonomics, splendid looks with noble style elements, and a well-packaged travel package.

In terms of weaknesses, the Pan America has engine heat in city mode and does not have a quickshifter available. The V85 TT has a windshield that can only be adjusted with tools and a digital rev counter that is not particularly easy to read.

Technical Specifications Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2021 compared to Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020

Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2021
Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020

Engine and Drive Train

Engine typeEngine typeVEngine typeV
BoreBore105 mmBore84 mm
StrokeStroke72 mmStroke77 mm
Engine powerEngine power150 HPEngine power80 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power9,000 rpmRpm at Max. Power7,750 rpm
TorqueTorque127 NmTorque80 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque6,750 rpmRpm at Torque5,000 rpm
Compression RatioCompression Ratio13 Compression Ratio10.5
Fuel systemFuel systemInjectionFuel systemInjection
StarterStarterElectricStarterElectric
Clutch TypeClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bathClutch TypeToughened
IgnitionIgnitionTransistorIgnitionDigital
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionProp shaft
Transmission TypeTransmission TypeGearshiftTransmission TypeGearshift
Number of gearsNumber of gears6Number of gears6
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders2
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
Valves per cylinderValves per cylinder4Valves per cylinder2
ValvesValvesDOHCValvesOHV
CoolingCoolingliquidCoolingOil-air
DisplacementDisplacement1,252 ccmDisplacement853 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork
DiameterDiameter47 mmDiameter41 mm
TravelTravel191 mmTravel170 mm
AdjustmentAdjustmentCompression, Preload, ReboundAdjustmentPreload, Rebound

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSwing armSuspensionSwing arm
Shock absorberShock absorberMonoshockShock absorberMonoshock
TravelTravel191 mmTravel170 mm
AdjustmentAdjustmentCompression, Preload, ReboundAdjustmentPreload
MaterialMaterialAluminiumMaterialSteel

Chassis

FrameFrameAluminiumFrameSteel

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
DiameterDiameter320 mmDiameter320 mm
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
TechnologyTechnologyradial, MonoblockTechnologyradial
BrandBrandBremboBrandBrembo

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
DiameterDiameter280 mmDiameter260 mm
PistonPistonSingle pistonPistonDouble piston

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Suspension electronically adjustable, Riding modes, Cornering ABS, Ride by Wire, Cruise control, Traction controlAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Riding modes, Ride by Wire, Traction control

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width120 mmFront tyre width110 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height70 %Front tyre height80 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter19 inchFront tyre diameter19 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width170 mmRear tyre width150 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height60 %Rear tyre height70 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
LengthLength2,270 mmLength2,240 mm
WidthWidth965 mmWidth950 mm
HeightHeight1,510 mmHeight1,300 mm
WheelbaseWheelbase1,585 mmWheelbase1,530 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height850 mmSeat Height830 mm
Dry Weight (with ABS)Dry Weight (with ABS)242 kgDry Weight (with ABS)208 kg
Kerb Weight (with ABS)Kerb Weight (with ABS)258 kgKerb Weight (with ABS)229 kg
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity21.2 lFuel Tank Capacity21 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA

Equipment

EquipmentEquipmentBluetooth, Connectivity, Heated grips, Cornering lights, LED daytime running lights, LED-Headlights, TFT display, Windscreen adjustableEquipmentHeated grips, LED-Headlights

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2021

Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2021

To sum up, in everyday and touring use we can say what our first impression already told us: the Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special is a touring enduro that can do what a big, strong touring enduro must be able to do in 2021. With enough space for two, with the possibility to leave the beaten track sometimes. Of course, you will hardly tackle the wildest off-road passages with it. But what the rider dares to do on a motorbike of this weight class is more pleasant for the passenger than on many competitors, thanks to the excellent electronic suspension on the Harley. And if pillion skipped the one or other creek crossing, it was only to take photos. And not to get her feet wet. Because even the most modern electronics can't prevent that, but that's what makes such adventure bikes so much fun. It is only when it is dirty that it is identified as such, even in front of the ice cream parlour.

Sporty powerplant

comfortable seating position

good pillion suitability

extensive electronics

original HD pannier system

wind protection

cornering ABS standard

cornering TC standard

optional seat lowering when stationary

good off-road characteristics.

Engine heat in city mode

quickshifter not available

Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020

Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020

With the V85 TT Travel, Moto Guzzi impressively demonstrates how modernity can be combined with tradition, just as with the conventional V85 TT. Typical stylistic elements are skilfully reminiscent of the almost 100-year-old Heritage, the Travel's noble Sabbia Namib paint finish fits in perfectly, while the state-of-the-art technology ensures that the V85 TT is a credible touring enduro. The engine convinces with a lot of sovereignty instead of pointed sportiness, the handling is neutral and good-natured and the off-road talents are remarkable. Added to this is the well-tied electronics package, excellent brakes and successful ergonomics. The travel package has been well thought out with a set of luggage, larger windshield, heated grips, LED auxiliary headlights and multimedia system MIA - and the cardan, which is unique in this class, makes the Travel the ideal travel companion!

Confident engine with good sound

maintenance-free Krdan drive

excellent brakes

good electronics package

well-balanced handling

off-road talent available

pleasant ergonomics

splendid looks with noble style elements

well-packaged travel package.

Windshield only adjustable with tools

digital rev counter not particularly easy to read

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special vs Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel

There are a few key differences between a Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2021 and a Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020. There are the same number of bikes of both models available on the 1000PS.de marketplace, specifically 11. It takes less time to sell a Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special with 78 days compared to 159 days for a Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel. Since model year 2021 1000PS.de editors have written 18 reviews for the Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special and 3 reviews for the Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel since model year 2020. The first review for the Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special was published on 2/22/2021 and now has more than 61,800 views. This compares to more than 17,900 views for the first review on Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel published on 4/16/2020.

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