KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021 vs. KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

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Overview - KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021 vs KTM 890 Duke R 2023

The KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021 and the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 are both powerful naked bikes with impressive specifications. However, there are some notable differences between the two models.

In terms of engine power, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021 takes the lead with 180 HP compared to the 121 HP of the KTM 890 Duke R 2023. The 1290 Super Duke R also has a higher torque of 140 Nm compared to the 99 Nm of the 890 Duke R. This means that the 1290 Super Duke R will likely offer more acceleration and top speed.

Both bikes have a 2-cylinder engine and a similar displacement, with the 1290 Super Duke R at 1301 ccm and the 890 Duke R at 890 ccm. This means that the 890 Duke R may be more fuel-efficient, as it has a combined fuel consumption of 4.74 l/100km compared to the 6.17 l/100km of the 1290 Super Duke R.

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021

In terms of suspension, both bikes feature an upside-down telescopic fork at the front with WP brand. However, the 1290 Super Duke R has a single swing arm at the rear, while the 890 Duke R has a swing arm. This may affect the handling and stability of the bikes, with the 1290 Super Duke R potentially offering better performance in this area.

Both bikes have a chromium-molybdenum frame, which provides strength and stability. They also have double disk brakes at the front with a diameter of 320 mm and four pistons. The 1290 Super Duke R has radial, monoblock technology, while the 890 Duke R has radial technology. This suggests that the 1290 Super Duke R may offer slightly better braking performance.

In terms of advanced rider assistance systems, both bikes come with ABS, riding modes, cornering ABS, ride by wire, and traction control. However, the 1290 Super Duke R also features anti-wheelie technology, which is not present in the 890 Duke R.

In terms of dimensions and weights, the 890 Duke R is slightly smaller and lighter than the 1290 Super Duke R. It has a wheelbase of 1482 mm compared to the 1497 mm of the 1290 Super Duke R. The seat height is also similar, with the 890 Duke R at 834 mm and the 1290 Super Duke R at 835 mm. The dry weight of the 890 Duke R is 166 kg, while the 1290 Super Duke R weighs 189 kg with ABS.

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

In terms of strengths, the 1290 Super Duke R offers a wonderfully powerful engine with a lot of power, an agile and comfortable seating position, decent braking power, a stable and fully adjustable chassis, and a comprehensive electronics package. The 890 Duke R, on the other hand, has a powerful and rev-happy engine, finely controllable response, a good optional quickshifter, a sporty seating position for great front-wheel feel, high-quality adjustable suspension, powerful Brembo brakes, low vehicle weight, and extensive partly optional electronics.

As for weaknesses, the 1290 Super Duke R lacks a standard shift assistant with blipper, while the 890 Duke R has a more demanding sitting position than the basic model and a tight basic set-up that may not suit everyone's taste.

Overall, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021 and the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 are both impressive naked bikes with their own strengths and weaknesses. The 1290 Super Duke R offers more power and a more stable chassis, while the 890 Duke R is lighter and has a more sporty seating position. Ultimately, the choice between the two will depend on the rider's preferences and priorities.

Technical Specifications KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021 compared to KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021
KTM 890 Duke R 2023

Engine and Drive Train

BoreBore108 mmBore90.7 mm
StrokeStroke71 mmStroke68.8 mm
Engine powerEngine power180 HPEngine power121 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power9,500 rpmRpm at Max. Power9,250 rpm
TorqueTorque140 NmTorque99 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque8,000 rpmRpm at Torque7,750 rpm
StarterStarterElectricStarterElectric
Clutch TypeClutch TypeAntihoppingClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bath
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
Number of gearsNumber of gears6Number of gears6
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders2
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
LubricationLubricationForcedLubricationForced
DisplacementDisplacement1,301 ccmDisplacement890 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork
BrandBrandWPBrandWP
DiameterDiameter48 mmDiameter43 mm
TravelTravel125 mmTravel140 mm

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSingle swing armSuspensionSwing arm
BrandBrandWPBrandWP
TravelTravel140 mmTravel150 mm

Chassis

FrameFrameChromium-molybdenumFrameChromium-molybdenum
Frame typeFrame typeTubularFrame typeTubular

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
DiameterDiameter320 mmDiameter320 mm
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
TechnologyTechnologyradial, MonoblockTechnologyradial

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
DiameterDiameter240 mmDiameter240 mm
PistonPistonDouble pistonPistonDouble piston

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Riding modes, Cornering ABS, Ride by Wire, Traction control, Anti-wheelieAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Riding modes, Cornering ABS, Ride by Wire, Traction control

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width120 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height70 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter17 inchFront tyre diameter17 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width200 mmRear tyre width180 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height55 %Rear tyre height55 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
WheelbaseWheelbase1,497 mmWheelbase1,482 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height835 mmSeat Height834 mm
Dry Weight (with ABS)Dry Weight (with ABS)189 kgDry Weight (with ABS)166 kg
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA
RangeRange259 kmRange295 km
Combined CO2 emissionsCombined CO2 emissions145 g/kmCombined CO2 emissions110 g/km
Combined fuel consumptionCombined fuel consumption6.17 l/100kmCombined fuel consumption4.74 l/100km
Stationary noiseStationary noise91 dBStationary noise96 dB

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021

The KTM Super Duke R has evolved perfectly over the generations: The engine is strong, has a huge amount of torque and in the current version also works excellently from low revs. However, the excellent interaction of all components is responsible for the overall wonderful performance of the big Duke. The active seating position is comfortable and unbelievably driving-friendly, the chassis is of a high standard, the brakes are powerful and the electronics are state of the art. Even the looks are now pleasing more and more critics. It's just a shame that you have to pay extra for the ingenious shift assistant with blipper.

wonderfully powerful engine with a lot of bang - especially from below and in the middle

super-agile and comfortable seating position

decent braking power

stable chassis, fully adjustable

comprehensive electronics package

acceptable consumption for the high power.

Shift assistant with blipper not standard

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

The KTM 890 Duke R is the sportiest evolutionary stage of the 890 Duke. More power, firmer chassis, sharper brakes - these ingredients, together with the already low vehicle weight, make it a real precision machine. A fast and cool bike for riding fun fetishists, ambitious home track heaters and, last but not least, a real recommendation for trackday visitors. However, the sporty positioning of the upper body and the somewhat more acute knee angle come at the expense of comfort. Last but not least, the adjustable suspension in the basic setup is really crisply tuned. If you want to enjoy the powerful 890 engine and the high-quality electronics a little more comfortably, you can still go for the basic model with a clear conscience.

powerful and rev-happy engine

finely controllable response

good (optional) quickshifter

sporty seating position ensures great front-wheel feel

high-quality adjustable suspension

powerful Brembo brakes

low vehicle weight

extensive (partly optional) electronics

Sitting position more demanding than on the basic model

tight basic set-up not to everyone's taste

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price KTM 1290 Super Duke R vs KTM 890 Duke R

There are a few key differences between a KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021 and a KTM 890 Duke R 2023. In terms of price, the actual average price of a KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021 is about 30% higher. Compared to KTM 890 Duke R 2023 there are less KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021 bikes available on the 1000PS.de Marketplace, specifically 22 compared to 38. It takes less time to sell a KTM 890 Duke R with 84 days compared to 91 days for the KTM 1290 Super Duke R. Since model year 2013 1000PS.de editors have written 65 reviews for the KTM 1290 Super Duke R and 15 reviews for the KTM 890 Duke R since model year 2020. The first review for the KTM 1290 Super Duke R was published on 11/8/2012 and now has more than 4,900 views. This compares to more than 126,600 views for the first review on KTM 890 Duke R published on 11/5/2019.

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