KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 vs. BMW S 1000 R 2017

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

BMW S 1000 R 2017

BMW S 1000 R 2017

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Overview - KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 vs BMW S 1000 R 2017

The KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 and the BMW S 1000 R 2017 are both powerful naked bikes with impressive performance capabilities. However, there are some key differences between the two models.

In terms of engine power, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 takes the lead with 180 HP, compared to the BMW S 1000 R 2017's 165 HP. The KTM also has a higher torque of 140 Nm, while the BMW offers 114 Nm. The KTM has a 2-cylinder engine with a displacement of 1301 ccm, while the BMW has a 4-cylinder engine with a displacement of 999 ccm.

Both bikes feature upside-down telescopic forks for the front suspension. However, the KTM has a single swing arm for the rear suspension, while the BMW has a swing arm. The KTM has a chromium-molybdenum frame, while the BMW has an aluminum frame. The KTM's frame type is tubular, while the BMW's frame type is twin tube.

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

In terms of braking, both bikes have double disk brakes with four pistons at the front. The KTM's brakes are radial and monoblock, while the BMW's brakes are radial. The BMW also boasts very powerful brakes.

When it comes to advanced rider assistance systems, both bikes offer ABS and traction control. The KTM also has cornering ABS, while the BMW has dynamic suspension, which eliminates the need for setup fiddling.

In terms of dimensions and weights, the KTM has a front tire width of 120 mm and a rear tire width of 200 mm, while the BMW has a front tire width of 120 mm and a rear tire width of 190 mm. Both bikes have a front tire diameter of 17 inches and a rear tire diameter of 17 inches. The KTM has a wheelbase of 1497 mm, while the BMW has a wheelbase of 1439 mm. The KTM also has a slightly higher seat height of 835 mm, compared to the BMW's 814 mm. The BMW has a larger fuel tank capacity of 17.5 l, while the KTM has a capacity of 16 l.

BMW S 1000 R 2017

BMW S 1000 R 2017

In terms of strengths, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 offers a new frame and seating position, a reverse linkage on the shock absorber, a better automatic gearshift, and a powerful engine despite Euro 5 regulations. It also has sensitive electronics. On the other hand, the BMW S 1000 R 2017 is praised for having the best shift assistant in the naked bike league, a universal design without any real weaknesses, a powerful engine with an awesome sound and great handling, and a wide range of equipment and accessory options. It also has very powerful brakes and a semi-active suspension that eliminates the need for setup adjustments.

In terms of weaknesses, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 is criticized for having easily scratched plastic between the seat and tank, as well as brake squeaks at walking speed. The BMW S 1000 R 2017 is noted for having original equipment tires that may not be of the finest premium quality and an inactive seating position on the racetrack.

Overall, both the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 and the BMW S 1000 R 2017 are impressive naked bikes with their own strengths and weaknesses. The KTM offers a more powerful engine and advanced electronics, while the BMW provides a wider range of equipment options and a semi-active suspension system. Ultimately, the choice between the two will depend on the rider's preferences and priorities.

Technical Specifications KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 compared to BMW S 1000 R 2017

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020
BMW S 1000 R 2017

Engine and Drive Train

BoreBore108 mmBore80 mm
StrokeStroke71 mmStroke49.7 mm
Engine powerEngine power180 HPEngine power165 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power9,500 rpmRpm at Max. Power11,000 rpm
TorqueTorque140 NmTorque114 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque8,000 rpmRpm at Torque9,250 rpm
Compression RatioCompression Ratio13.5 Compression Ratio12
Clutch TypeClutch TypeAntihoppingClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bath, Antihopping
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders4
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
DisplacementDisplacement1,301 ccmDisplacement999 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork
DiameterDiameter48 mmDiameter46 mm

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSingle swing armSuspensionSwing arm

Chassis

FrameFrameChromium-molybdenumFrameAluminium
Frame typeFrame typeTubularFrame typeTwin Tube

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
TechnologyTechnologyradial, MonoblockTechnologyradial

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
PistonPistonDouble pistonPistonSingle piston
Shock mountShock mountFixed caliperShock mountFloating caliper

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Cornering ABS, Traction controlAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsDynamic suspension

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width120 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height70 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter17 inchFront tyre diameter17 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width200 mmRear tyre width190 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height55 %Rear tyre height55 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
WheelbaseWheelbase1,497 mmWheelbase1,439 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height835 mmSeat Height814 mm
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity16 lFuel Tank Capacity17.5 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

The KTM 1290 Super Duke R retains its brute character for 2022 if you take the beast by the horns. But the Hyper Naked from Mattighofen is also convincing in everyday use and presents itself as a mature all-round companion. Small details could use a little love, but nothing that spoils the positive overall impression of the 1290 Super Duke R.

brutal performance

accessible handling

fully adjustable and stable chassis

high quality standard tyres

comfortable seating position

acceptable fuel consumption.

Full equipment wants to be paid for

fiddly indicator operation

BMW S 1000 R 2017

BMW S 1000 R 2017

The BMW S 1000 R impresses across the board and is much more than just a naked version of the S 1000 RR. With its own character, more torque in the mid-range and first-class electronics, it sets new standards in the high-performance Naked segment. The overall package of brutal performance, excellent suspension and practical everyday use makes it one of the best naked bikes ever - and at a surprisingly fair price.

Brutal performance with 160 Horsepower

Outstanding DDC suspension

Amazing stability at high speeds for a naked bike

Perfect electronics with sensitive DTC

Good price/performance ratio

Character despite perfection

Driving mode display font too small

Too extreme appearance for BMW traditionalists

Without equipment packages, important electronic features are missing

The price advantage is lost with full features

Price Comparison Average Market Price KTM 1290 Super Duke R vs BMW S 1000 R

There are a few key differences between a KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 and a BMW S 1000 R 2017. In terms of price, the actual average price of a KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 is about 13% higher. Compared to BMW S 1000 R 2017 there are less KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 bikes available on the 1000PS.de Marketplace, specifically 14 compared to 22. It takes less time to sell a KTM 1290 Super Duke R with 78 days compared to 97 days for a BMW S 1000 R. Since model year 2013 1000PS.de editors have written 65 reviews for the KTM 1290 Super Duke R and 62 reviews for the BMW S 1000 R since model year 2014. The first review for the KTM 1290 Super Duke R was published on 08/11/2012 and now has more than 4,900 views. This compares to more than 17,300 views for the first review on BMW S 1000 R published on 03/11/2013.

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