BMW F 800 R 2017 vs. KTM 890 Duke 2021

BMW F 800 R 2017

BMW F 800 R 2017

KTM 890 Duke 2021

KTM 890 Duke 2021

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Overview - BMW F 800 R 2017 vs KTM 890 Duke 2021

The BMW F 800 R model year 2017 and the KTM 890 Duke model year 2021 are both naked bikes with similar engine types, fuel systems, and cooling systems. However, there are several key differences between the two models.

In terms of engine power, the KTM 890 Duke has a clear advantage with 115 HP compared to the BMW F 800 R's 90 HP. The KTM also has a higher torque of 92 Nm compared to the BMW's 86 Nm. This means that the KTM offers more power and acceleration, making it a more thrilling and exciting ride.

Both bikes have a two-cylinder engine configuration and use a liquid cooling system. They also have upside-down telescopic forks for the front suspension and swing arm suspension for the rear. However, the BMW F 800 R has an aluminum frame, while the KTM 890 Duke has a chromium-molybdenum frame. This could potentially affect the weight and handling characteristics of the two bikes.

BMW F 800 R 2017

BMW F 800 R 2017

In terms of braking, both bikes have double disk brakes with four pistons and radial technology at the front. This ensures strong and reliable stopping power for both models.

When it comes to advanced rider assistance systems, the KTM 890 Duke has a clear advantage. It offers ABS, riding modes, cornering ABS, launch control, ride by wire, traction control, and anti-wheelie. The BMW F 800 R, on the other hand, only has electronically adjustable suspension as its advanced rider assistance system.

In terms of dimensions and weights, both bikes have the same front and rear tire widths and diameters. However, the BMW F 800 R has a slightly longer wheelbase of 1520 mm compared to the KTM 890 Duke's 1476 mm. The seat height of the BMW can be adjusted between 790 mm and 820 mm, while the KTM has a fixed seat height of 820 mm. The BMW also has a larger fuel tank capacity of 15 liters compared to the KTM's 14 liters.

KTM 890 Duke 2021

KTM 890 Duke 2021

In terms of strengths, the BMW F 800 R 2017 is praised for its strong brakes, upgraded equipment, low weight, accessible geometry, and characteristic sound. On the other hand, the KTM 890 Duke 2021 is praised for its rev-happy engine, lively handling, buttery-smooth quickshifter, and comprehensive electronics package. It is also noted that the KTM does not leave the desire for the R version on the country road.

As for weaknesses, the BMW F 800 R is described as somewhat pragmatic, and its effervescence is said to be lacking. The KTM 890 Duke's only weakness mentioned is that the quickshifter is available at an extra cost.

In conclusion, while both the BMW F 800 R 2017 and the KTM 890 Duke 2021 are naked bikes with similar specifications, the KTM offers more power, advanced rider assistance systems, and a comprehensive electronics package. However, the BMW has its own strengths, such as strong brakes, upgraded equipment, and a characteristic sound. Ultimately, the choice between the two models will depend on the rider's preferences and priorities.

Technical Specifications BMW F 800 R 2017 compared to KTM 890 Duke 2021

BMW F 800 R 2017
KTM 890 Duke 2021

Engine and Drive Train

Engine typeEngine typeIn lineEngine typeIn line
BoreBore82 mmBore90.7 mm
StrokeStroke75.6 mmStroke68.8 mm
Engine powerEngine power90 HPEngine power115 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power8,000 rpmRpm at Max. Power9,000 rpm
TorqueTorque86 NmTorque92 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque5,800 rpmRpm at Torque8,000 rpm
Compression RatioCompression Ratio12.02 Compression Ratio13.5
Fuel systemFuel systemInjectionFuel systemInjection
Clutch TypeClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bathClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bath
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
Number of gearsNumber of gears6Number of gears6
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders2
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
Valves per cylinderValves per cylinder4Valves per cylinder4
ValvesValvesDOHCValvesDOHC
CoolingCoolingliquidCoolingliquid
LubricationLubricationDry sumpLubricationForced
DisplacementDisplacement798 ccmDisplacement889 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSwing armSuspensionSwing arm

Chassis

FrameFrameAluminiumFrameChromium-molybdenum
Frame typeFrame typeTwin Tube, Load-bearing engineFrame typeTubular

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
TechnologyTechnologyradialTechnologyradial

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
PistonPistonSingle pistonPistonDouble piston

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsSuspension electronically adjustableAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Riding modes, Cornering ABS, Launch-Control, Ride by Wire, Traction control, Anti-wheelie

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width120 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height70 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter17 inchFront tyre diameter17 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width180 mmRear tyre width180 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height55 %Rear tyre height55 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
WheelbaseWheelbase1,520 mmWheelbase1,476 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height790,770,820 mmSeat Height820 mm
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity15 lFuel Tank Capacity14 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

BMW F 800 R 2017

BMW F 800 R 2017

With a EURO4 engine, new riding modes, new instruments and new colours, the F 800 R starts the new season. It is recognisable at first glance only by the end cap on the stately stainless steel exhaust. It is one of those full-grown motorbikes that, despite its considerable sporting potential, was designed for the widest possible user group. Therefore, it is absolutely beginner-friendly (throttled), but can also inspire an experienced audience. Its character remains somewhat pragmatic, but the unmistakable, hollow sound of the inline two compensates for this.

strong brakes

upgraded equipment

low weight

accessible geometry

characteristic sound

somewhat pragmatic

effervescence is a little lacking

KTM 890 Duke 2021

KTM 890 Duke 2021

The predecessor 790 Duke already proved that KTM knows how to build a mid-range naked bike for the road. The new 890 carries the torch with a puffy chest and once again lives up to its scalpel nickname. Lively, it pulls the radii and gives off a certain nervousness that can be interpreted as a wild character. The equipment is almost complete - but only almost. Why do you have to pay extra for the quickshifter when it was standard on the predecessor? It is all the more annoying that the clutchless upshifting and downshifting functions as smoothly as butter and that one would not want to do without it.

Rev-happy engine

lively handling

buttery-smooth quickshifter

electronics package

does not arouse a desire for the R version on the country road.

Quickshifter at extra cost

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price BMW F 800 R vs KTM 890 Duke

There are a few key differences between a BMW F 800 R 2017 and a KTM 890 Duke 2021. In terms of price, the actual average price of a KTM 890 Duke 2021 is about 27% higher. Compared to KTM 890 Duke 2021 there are less BMW F 800 R 2017 bikes available on the 1000PS.de Marketplace, specifically 16 compared to 22. It takes less time to sell a KTM 890 Duke with 78 days compared to 105 days for the BMW F 800 R. Since model year 2009 1000PS.de editors have written 20 reviews for the BMW F 800 R and 11 reviews for the KTM 890 Duke since model year 2021. The first review for the BMW F 800 R was published on 10/10/2008 and now has more than 8,900 views. This compares to more than 37,800 views for the first review on KTM 890 Duke published on 19/01/2021.

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