Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2024 vs. Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2023

Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2024

Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2024

Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2023

Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2023

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Overview - Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2024 vs Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2023

Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2024

Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2024

Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2023

Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2023

Technical Specifications Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2024 compared to Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2023

Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2024
Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2023

Engine and Drive Train

Engine typeEngine typeVEngine typeV
BoreBore84 mmBore105 mm
StrokeStroke77 mmStroke72 mm
Engine powerEngine power80 HPEngine power151.98 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power7,750 rpmRpm at Max. Power8,750 rpm
TorqueTorque83 NmTorque128 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque5,100 rpmRpm at Torque6,750 rpm
Compression RatioCompression Ratio10.5 Compression Ratio13
Fuel systemFuel systemInjectionFuel systemInjection
StarterStarterElectricStarterElectric
Clutch TypeClutch TypeToughenedClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bath
IgnitionIgnitionDigitalIgnitionTransistor
TransmissionTransmissionProp shaftTransmissionChain
Transmission TypeTransmission TypeGearshiftTransmission TypeGearshift
Number of gearsNumber of gears6Number of gears6
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders2
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
Valves per cylinderValves per cylinder2Valves per cylinder4
ValvesValvesOHVValvesDOHC
CoolingCoolingAirCoolingliquid
DisplacementDisplacement853 ccmDisplacement1,252 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork
DiameterDiameter41 mmDiameter47 mm
TravelTravel170 mmTravel191 mm
AdjustmentAdjustmentPreload, ReboundAdjustmentCompression, Preload, Rebound

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSwing armSuspensionSwing arm
Shock absorberShock absorberMonoshockShock absorberMonoshock
TravelTravel170 mmTravel191 mm
AdjustmentAdjustmentPreload, ReboundAdjustmentCompression, Preload, Rebound
MaterialMaterialAluminiumMaterialAluminium

Chassis

FrameFrameSteelFrameAluminium

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
DiameterDiameter320 mmDiameter320 mm
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
TechnologyTechnologyradialTechnologyradial, Monoblock
BrandBrandBremboBrandBrembo

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
DiameterDiameter260 mmDiameter280 mm
PistonPistonDouble pistonPistonSingle piston

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Riding modes, Cornering ABS, Ride by Wire, Traction controlAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Suspension electronically adjustable, Riding modes, Cornering ABS, Ride by Wire, Cruise control, Traction control

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width110 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height80 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter19 inchFront tyre diameter19 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width150 mmRear tyre width170 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height70 %Rear tyre height60 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
LengthLength2,240 mmLength2,270 mm
WidthWidth950 mmWidth965 mm
HeightHeight1,300 mmHeight1,510 mm
WheelbaseWheelbase1,530 mmWheelbase1,585 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height830 mmSeat Height850 mm
Kerb Weight (with ABS)Kerb Weight (with ABS)230 kgKerb Weight (with ABS)258 kg
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity23 lFuel Tank Capacity21.2 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA
RangeRange469 kmRange432 km
Combined fuel consumptionCombined fuel consumption4.9 l/100kmCombined fuel consumption4.9 l/100km

Equipment

EquipmentEquipmentLED-HeadlightsEquipmentBluetooth, Connectivity, Heated grips, Cornering lights, LED daytime running lights, LED-Headlights, TFT display, Windscreen adjustable

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2024

Moto Guzzi V85 TT 2024

Do owners of an older V85 TT now have to switch? Of course not, but the extensive changes for the 2024 model year were sensible, the engine looks a little more "grown-up" and the lean angle-dependent Advanced Rider Assistance Systems are beneficial to riding safety. All in all, the classically beautiful Moto Guzzi V85 TT - or Strada and TT Travel - is still a wonderful touring motorbike that feels most at home on the road and is made for relaxed cruising, although it can also take corners with real agility and of course also masters easier off-road passages. All this, combined with its iconic appearance and the unique selling point in its vehicle class of a low-maintenance cardan transmission, make it a real alternative in the mid-range enduro and adventure touring segment.

Pleasant, present V2 engine

good sound

contemporary Advanced Rider Assistance Systems

well-tuned riding modes

easy-care cardan drive

ready for easier off-road passages

cruise control as standard

unmistakable, timelessly beautiful look

harmonious, linear steering behaviour

high grip and traction

robust and reliable design

comfortable seating position

intuitive TFT display

suitable for long distances

riding experience full of character.

Relatively high weight in relation to power

no quickshifter available

not made for tougher off-road

sluggish handling at low speeds

clutch requires a lot of manual force

noticeable load change reactions

limited knee room for taller riders

searching for neutral in the transmission is sometimes a bit annoying

Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2023

Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special 2023

The Pan America 1250 is Harley-Davidson's first attempt in the large touring enduro segment - and it's a thoroughly successful effort! Apart from a few, actually negligible flaws, the Pan America 1250 Special is an all-round good adventure bike. On paved roads, it shows its thoroughly sporty character and ranks pretty well in the league of the usual suspects in this class. With innovative features like the Adaptive Ride Height System, the Americans could even manage to acquire a larger number of new customers for whom the usual suspects are all too high. Combined with the low seat height, it is attractive for short-legged pilots.

Sporty power unit

comfortable seating position

comprehensive electronics

distinctive look

cornering ABS standard, cornering TC standard

optional seat lowering when stationary

Workmanship and haptics partly below average

Quickshifter at extra cost and not perfect

Windshield too high for off-road use

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price Moto Guzzi V85 TT vs Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 Special

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