Yamaha MT-09 2017 vs. KTM 890 Duke R 2023

Yamaha MT-09 2017

Yamaha MT-09 2017

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

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Overview - Yamaha MT-09 2017 vs KTM 890 Duke R 2023

The Yamaha MT-09 2017 and the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 are both naked bikes that offer powerful performance and advanced rider assistance systems. However, there are several key differences between the two models.

In terms of engine specifications, the Yamaha MT-09 2017 is equipped with an in-line 3-cylinder engine that produces 115 horsepower and 87.5 Nm of torque. On the other hand, the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 features an in-line 2-cylinder engine that delivers 121 horsepower and 99 Nm of torque. This means that the KTM has a slightly more powerful engine, providing a thrilling and rev-happy riding experience.

Both bikes have a liquid cooling system and fuel injection for efficient performance. The Yamaha MT-09 2017 has a displacement of 847cc, while the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 has a larger displacement of 890cc, giving it an advantage in terms of overall power.

In terms of suspension, both bikes feature upside-down telescopic forks at the front and a swing arm with a monoshock at the rear. However, the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 has high-quality adjustable suspension, allowing riders to fine-tune their riding experience to their preferences. This is a notable advantage over the Yamaha MT-09 2017, which does not offer adjustable suspension as standard.

Yamaha MT-09 2017

Yamaha MT-09 2017

Both bikes have double disk brakes at the front, but the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 has larger diameter disks (320mm) compared to the Yamaha MT-09 2017 (298mm). This gives the KTM better stopping power and improved braking performance.

In terms of advanced rider assistance systems, both bikes are equipped with ABS and traction control. However, the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 offers additional features such as riding modes, cornering ABS, ride by wire, and a quickshifter (optional). These features enhance the overall riding experience and provide more control and safety.

In terms of dimensions and weights, the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 has a slightly longer wheelbase (1482mm) compared to the Yamaha MT-09 2017 (1440mm). The seat height of the KTM is also slightly higher at 834mm, compared to 815mm for the Yamaha. Both bikes have a fuel tank capacity of 14 liters.

In terms of strengths, the Yamaha MT-09 2017 benefits from Öhlins suspension, an Akrapovic exhaust for improved optics and sound, a Magura HC3 radial brake pump, Carbon2Race covers for enhanced aesthetics, and an effective combination of seat, footrests, and handlebar clamps.

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

On the other hand, the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 boasts a powerful and rev-happy engine, finely controllable response, good optional quickshifter, sporty seating position for great front-wheel feel, high-quality adjustable suspension, powerful Brembo brakes, low vehicle weight, and extensive electronics including riding modes, cornering ABS, ride by wire, and traction control.

In terms of weaknesses, the Yamaha MT-09 2017 requires a higher financial outlay and more working time for certain parts that need to be registered. Additionally, the ECU flash is not road legal.

The KTM 890 Duke R 2023 has a more demanding sitting position compared to the basic model, and the tight basic set-up may not suit everyone's taste.

In conclusion, the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 offers a more powerful engine, adjustable suspension, and a range of advanced electronics, making it a more technologically advanced and performance-oriented naked bike compared to the Yamaha MT-09 2017. However, the Yamaha still has its strengths in terms of suspension, aesthetics, and overall riding experience. Ultimately, the choice between the two models will depend on the rider's preferences and priorities.

Technical Specifications Yamaha MT-09 2017 compared to KTM 890 Duke R 2023

Yamaha MT-09 2017
KTM 890 Duke R 2023

Engine and Drive Train

Engine typeEngine typeIn lineEngine typeIn line
BoreBore78 mmBore90.7 mm
StrokeStroke59.1 mmStroke68.8 mm
Engine powerEngine power115 HPEngine power121 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power10,000 rpmRpm at Max. Power9,250 rpm
TorqueTorque87.5 NmTorque99 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque8,500 rpmRpm at Torque7,750 rpm
Fuel systemFuel systemInjectionFuel systemInjection
StarterStarterElectricStarterElectric
Clutch TypeClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bathClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bath
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
Transmission TypeTransmission TypeGearshiftTransmission TypeGearshift
Number of gearsNumber of gears6Number of gears6
CylindersCylinders3Cylinders2
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
Valves per cylinderValves per cylinder4Valves per cylinder4
ValvesValvesDOHCValvesDOHC
CoolingCoolingliquidCoolingliquid
DisplacementDisplacement847 ccmDisplacement890 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork
TravelTravel137 mmTravel140 mm

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSwing armSuspensionSwing arm
Shock absorberShock absorberMonoshockShock absorberMonoshock
Shock mountShock mountDeflectionShock mountDeflection
TravelTravel130 mmTravel150 mm

Chassis

FrameFrameAluminiumFrameChromium-molybdenum
Frame typeFrame typeTwin TubeFrame typeTubular
RakeRake65 degreeRake65.7 degree

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
DiameterDiameter298 mmDiameter320 mm

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
DiameterDiameter245 mmDiameter240 mm

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Quickshifter, Traction controlAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Riding modes, Cornering ABS, Ride by Wire, Traction control

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width120 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height70 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter17 inchFront tyre diameter17 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width180 mmRear tyre width180 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height55 %Rear tyre height55 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
WheelbaseWheelbase1,440 mmWheelbase1,482 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height815 mmSeat Height834 mm
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity14 lFuel Tank Capacity14 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

Yamaha MT-09 2017

Yamaha MT-09 2017

In conclusion, after several stops throughout the season, I can look back on a great result. Both in terms of performance and looks, our MT-09 is perfect. The suspension was probably our most important issue. Where before there was clearly (too much) movement in the rear in fast corners, now it is ironed over without batting an eyelid. The STX 46 shock absorber is quite stiff in its basic configuration, but also manages to get through everyday life without being uncomfortable. Thanks to generous adjustment options, there is still room for individual preferences and uses. The function of the NIX 30 cartridge is also impressive. The response behaviour - especially under load - has improved significantly. There is now also much more reserve available when braking. Where before the fork went into block and the ABS triggered when braking hard with the original set-up, now the brakes simply continue to work effectively. In addition, the MT-09 now follows the intended line in the curve radius as if by itself - a pure pleasure. The sight and sound of the Akrapovic complete system are also pure joy, and the fact that it produces a few more horsepower is felt effectively, especially in the upper third of the rev range. The front wheel shoots even more willingly into the gallery in 2nd and 3rd gear.

Öhlins suspension an extreme enrichment

thanks to Akrapovic now optics and sound are right

Magura HC3 radial brake pump works divinely

Carbon2Race covers offer grandiose optics

combination of seat, footrests and handlebar clamps very effective

Financial outlay

lots of working time

certain parts must be registered

ECU Flash not road legal

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

The KTM 890 Duke R is the sportiest evolutionary stage of the 890 Duke. More power, firmer chassis, sharper brakes - these ingredients, together with the already low vehicle weight, make it a real precision machine. A fast and cool bike for riding fun fetishists, ambitious home track heaters and, last but not least, a real recommendation for trackday visitors. However, the sporty positioning of the upper body and the somewhat more acute knee angle come at the expense of comfort. Last but not least, the adjustable suspension in the basic setup is really crisply tuned. If you want to enjoy the powerful 890 engine and the high-quality electronics a little more comfortably, you can still go for the basic model with a clear conscience.

powerful and rev-happy engine

finely controllable response

good (optional) quickshifter

sporty seating position ensures great front-wheel feel

high-quality adjustable suspension

powerful Brembo brakes

low vehicle weight

extensive (partly optional) electronics

Sitting position more demanding than on the basic model

tight basic set-up not to everyone's taste

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price Yamaha MT-09 vs KTM 890 Duke R

There are a few key differences between a Yamaha MT-09 2017 and a KTM 890 Duke R 2023. In terms of price, the actual average price of a KTM 890 Duke R 2023 is about 54% higher. Compared to KTM 890 Duke R 2023 there are less Yamaha MT-09 2017 bikes available on the 1000PS.de Marketplace, specifically 10 compared to 38. It takes less time to sell a Yamaha MT-09 with 73 days compared to 84 days for a KTM 890 Duke R. Since model year 2013 1000PS.de editors have written 57 reviews for the Yamaha MT-09 and 15 reviews for the KTM 890 Duke R since model year 2020. The first review for the Yamaha MT-09 was published on 10/06/2013 and now has more than 39,900 views. This compares to more than 126,600 views for the first review on KTM 890 Duke R published on 05/11/2019.

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