KTM 890 Duke R 2023 vs. Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

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Overview - KTM 890 Duke R 2023 vs Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

In terms of engine performance, the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 offers 121 HP of power and 99 Nm of torque, while the Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 provides a more powerful engine with 145 HP of power and 104 Nm of torque. Both bikes have an inline engine type, fuel injection system, and liquid cooling.

When it comes to suspension, the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 features an upside-down telescopic fork from WP with preload adjustment at the front, and a swing arm suspension with a monoshock from WP with preload adjustment at the rear. On the other hand, the Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 is equipped with an upside-down telescopic fork from Showa with compression, preload, and rebound adjustment at the front, and a single swing arm suspension with a monoshock from Showa with compression, preload, and rebound adjustment at the rear.

In terms of chassis, the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 has a chromium-molybdenum frame type, while the Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 features a steel backbone frame type.

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

Both bikes are equipped with double disk brakes at the front with a diameter of 320 mm and four pistons, using radial technology. They also have advanced rider assistance systems such as ABS, riding modes, ride by wire, and traction control.

In terms of dimensions and weights, the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 has a front tire width of 120 mm and a rear tire width of 180 mm, both with a diameter of 17 inches. It has a wheelbase of 1482 mm, a seat height of 834 mm, and a fuel tank capacity of 14 liters, providing a range of 295 km. The combined fuel consumption is 4.74 l/100km. On the other hand, the Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 has a front tire width of 120 mm and a rear tire width of 190 mm, both with a diameter of 17 inches. It has a wheelbase of 1455 mm, a seat height of 830 mm, and a fuel tank capacity of 16.2 liters, providing a range of 270 km. The combined fuel consumption is 5.9 l/100km.

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

In terms of equipment, both bikes are equipped with LED headlights and TFT displays. The KTM 890 Duke R 2023 also offers connectivity as part of its equipment.

In terms of strengths, the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 has a powerful and rev-happy engine, finely controllable response, a good (optional) quickshifter, a sporty seating position that ensures great front-wheel feel, high-quality adjustable suspension, powerful Brembo brakes, low vehicle weight, and extensive (partly optional) electronics. On the other hand, the Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 has a powerful engine, a smooth quickshifter, nimble handling, a 5-inch TFT display, and a classy appearance.

In terms of weaknesses, the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 has a sitting position that may be more demanding than on the basic model and a tight basic set-up that may not be to everyone's taste. The Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 may have a seat height that could become an obstacle for small riders.

Technical Specifications KTM 890 Duke R 2023 compared to Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

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Engine and Drive Train

Engine typeEngine typeIn lineEngine typeIn line
BoreBore90.7 mmBore75 mm
StrokeStroke68.8 mmStroke56.5 mm
Engine powerEngine power121 HPEngine power145 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power9,250 rpmRpm at Max. Power10,500 rpm
TorqueTorque99 NmTorque104 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque7,750 rpmRpm at Torque8,250 rpm
Fuel systemFuel systemInjectionFuel systemInjection
StarterStarterElectricStarterElectric
Clutch TypeClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bathClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bath
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
Transmission TypeTransmission TypeGearshiftTransmission TypeGearshift
Number of gearsNumber of gears6Number of gears6
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders4
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
Valves per cylinderValves per cylinder4Valves per cylinder4
ValvesValvesDOHCValvesDOHC
CoolingCoolingliquidCoolingliquid
DisplacementDisplacement890 ccmDisplacement998 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork
BrandBrandWPBrandShowa
TravelTravel140 mmTravel120 mm
AdjustmentAdjustmentPreloadAdjustmentCompression, Preload, Rebound

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSwing armSuspensionSingle swing arm
Shock absorberShock absorberMonoshockShock absorberMonoshock
BrandBrandWPBrandShowa
TravelTravel150 mmTravel131 mm
AdjustmentAdjustmentPreloadAdjustmentCompression, Preload, Rebound

Chassis

FrameFrameChromium-molybdenumFrameSteel
Frame typeFrame typeTubularFrame typeBackbone
RakeRake65.7 degreeRake65 degree

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
DiameterDiameter320 mmDiameter310 mm
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
ActuationActuationHydraulicActuationHydraulic
TechnologyTechnologyradialTechnologyradial

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
DiameterDiameter240 mmDiameter256 mm
PistonPistonDouble pistonPistonDouble piston

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Riding modes, Cornering ABS, Ride by Wire, Traction controlAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Riding modes, Ride by Wire, Quickshifter, Traction control

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width120 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height70 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter17 inchFront tyre diameter17 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width180 mmRear tyre width190 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height55 %Rear tyre height55 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
WheelbaseWheelbase1,482 mmWheelbase1,455 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height834 mmSeat Height830 mm
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity14 lFuel Tank Capacity16.2 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA
RangeRange295 kmRange270 km
Combined CO2 emissionsCombined CO2 emissions110 g/kmCombined CO2 emissions137 g/km
Combined fuel consumptionCombined fuel consumption4.74 l/100kmCombined fuel consumption5.9 l/100km
Stationary noiseStationary noise96 dBStationary noise97 dB

Equipment

EquipmentEquipmentConnectivity, LED-Headlights, TFT displayEquipmentLED-Headlights, TFT display

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

The KTM 890 Duke R is the sportiest evolutionary stage of the 890 Duke. More power, firmer chassis, sharper brakes - these ingredients, together with the already low vehicle weight, make it a real precision machine. A fast and cool bike for riding fun fetishists, ambitious home track heaters and, last but not least, a real recommendation for trackday visitors. However, the sporty positioning of the upper body and the somewhat more acute knee angle come at the expense of comfort. Last but not least, the adjustable suspension in the basic setup is really crisply tuned. If you want to enjoy the powerful 890 engine and the high-quality electronics a little more comfortably, you can still go for the basic model with a clear conscience.

powerful and rev-happy engine

finely controllable response

good (optional) quickshifter

sporty seating position ensures great front-wheel feel

high-quality adjustable suspension

powerful Brembo brakes

low vehicle weight

extensive (partly optional) electronics

Sitting position more demanding than on the basic model

tight basic set-up not to everyone's taste

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Noble, dignified and incredibly powerful. The CB1000R Black Edition cuts a fine figure both in front of the opera and on a sporty smoke-up on the country road. Even under full load, the power unit exudes pure composure, while the chassis and brake components also cope well with the power and weight. A great all-round naked bike package that conveys Honda quality through and through.

powerful engine Smooth quickshifter

nimble handling

5 inch TFT display

classy appearance

Seat height could become an obstacle for small pilots

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price KTM 890 Duke R vs Honda CB1000R Black Edition

There are a few key differences between a KTM 890 Duke R 2023 and a Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023. In terms of price, the actual average price of a Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 is about 3% higher. Compared to Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 there are less KTM 890 Duke R 2023 bikes available on the 1000PS.de Marketplace, specifically 38 compared to 58. It takes less time to sell a KTM 890 Duke R with 84 days compared to 86 days for a Honda CB1000R Black Edition. Since model year 2020 1000PS.de editors have written 15 reviews for the KTM 890 Duke R and 5 reviews for the Honda CB1000R Black Edition since model year 2021. The first review for the KTM 890 Duke R was published on 05/11/2019 and now has more than 126,600 views. This compares to more than 97,700 views for the first review on Honda CB1000R Black Edition published on 02/11/2020.

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